Proud to be interviewed by Nicky and Dave, where I shared:
1) Who you should take care of first, *before* taking care of your employees, 2) Why and when you should be inauthentic, and 3) The first — and most important — question to ask people around you …
PODCAST LINK: HERE
Your weekend podcast listen [25 min – time stamps below]. Thank you to David Smith and Nicole Catchpole for inviting me — and hearing out my contrarian views on #leadership:
Time stamps:
1:20 “What do leaders need to keep mind during crises like now?”
2:10 Who leaders should take care of first.
4:00 When you may wish to be “inauthentic”
5:35 Leadership lessons from NZ PM Jacinda Ardern, and U.S. rapper Killer Mike.
9:15 Nicky and Michael: How cultures are different — and is there is a “crisis” playbook?
15:50 Dave and Michael discuss how expressing anger can work for you…
19:00 Michael shares a powerful phrase you can use to connect to employees.
22:00 Dave and Nicki explore work-life balance, and Michael shares how constraints and limits imposed by the pandemic may actually lead to better change, faster.
